LET US REASON TOGETHER (WEEK 1)
“I was reading some scriptures that talked about the drinking of alcohol and smoking and it was brought to my notice that no scripture talked about smoking and some scriptures supported the taking of alcohol with emphasis that it shouldn’t be in excess. Others clearly warned against the use of alcohol; especially for people who have been called by God. I have three questions:
1. What exactly is God’s stand where alcohol is concerned?
2. Jesus was separated to God, yet he turned water to wine.
3. What is God’s stand on smoking.
N.B – Please let us all participate by commenting on the blogs:
https://kennyandrew.wordpress.com/2016/09/13/discussion-on-alcohol-and-smoking
https://cfgmedilag.wordpress.com/2016/09/13/let-us-reason-together/
https://rcfmedilag.wordpress.com
supporting our answers with bible references (if possible). So that everyone can learn and benefit.

Thanks and God bless.”
From the editorial desk
Hi everyone. So in line with the above question, this were some of the responses sent in by wonderful brothers and sister’s in Christ via WhatsApp. At a point, a very beautiful discussion ensued on one of the blogs and I would focus more on that discussion. Please kindly visit our blogs to read more of the comments. I want to use this medium to thank as many that took out time to address this issue, may the good Lord bless and strengthen you.

 
As we all know, there is an ongoing series titled Booze&Smoke – Life Behind The Bottle. It is a Christian Literary project focused on the lives of alcohol users and smokers. It would run from September to the end of October on:
kennyandrew.wordpress.com
cfgmedilag.wordpress.com
rcfmedilag.wordpress.com
The whole essence of this project is:

 
For the believer: To establish God’s stand on the issue of alcohol and smoking by rightly dividing the word of truth, so that we preach God’s word to people and not mere religion. And also for us to walk in clarity and understanding in our walk with God and also to be able to ‘defend’ your faith when asked.

 
For non-Christians/drinkers/smokers: To firmly establish the love of God, His mercy and His concern for and towards mankind. The theme text for this series is Romans 11:28 – “Come to me all ye that labor and heavy laden I will give you rest.” It is only in Jesus that we find everlasting rest.
So, sit back and enjoy every publication in this series, you don’t want to miss this!

 

ANSWERS ON BOOZE&SMOKE (Excerpts 1)
“As far as alcohol is concerned there’s no contradiction from the Bible. If you notice it’s purely about the spiritual level attained or thrust upon some people. While some are permitted to drink but not in excess others are explicitly forbidden.
So it’s all about your spiritual level. I once used to take alcohol and gave reasons from the Bible why I was allowed to. But one day, this conviction came upon me, I started asking myself…after drinking, moderately, of course, can I go preach with the stench in my breath? But we shouldn’t condemn those who do but encourage them to grow so they’ll eventually stop.” ~ G

“@G, I’m not so sure I understand you. Christians who are not growing spiritually are permitted to take alcohol? What of those who are growing spiritually and still take alcohol, are they justified? What if I am growing spiritually and still enjoying my one glass, two glasses, three glasses and it is not affecting me spiritually and physically….will God be angry with me? 

 
 What about smoking? What makes smoking wrong as a Christian? I can as well be taking it just to relax and there is no biblical scripture written against it?

 
“Another thing, we know that there is a very thin line between moderate drinking and excessive drinking….a Christian can start drinking with d intention of one or two glasses, and end up drinking excessively…..and we know that drinking clouds judgement. Should there even be a differentiation at all?” ~ E

 
“Do all to the glory of God…even breathing….how do those vices glorify God….do you become more like him wen u take them? It is wrong no matter what you feel or say.” ~ H

 
 “Every Saturday we go to talk to people about alcohol and smoking. What if we come across a Christian who drinks and says, didn’t Jesus turn water to wine for people…..can we paint a scenario letting the person believe that the wine was non-alcoholic😊? @H, the bible itself does not condemn drinking. It condemns drinking excessively.” ~ E

 
“We call even grape juice wine. wine does not have to be alcoholic before It’s called wine.” ~ H

 
“That’s why I asked, can u safely say Jesus turned water to wine……it wasn’t alcoholic. What is the proof? If it was alcoholic? What is d justification?” ~ E

 
““That drinking can be interpreted as eating genetally, like wen men in d bible refers to both men and women sometimes did u check d origin of d word and it meant alcoholic drink because eating and drinking should b done in moderation and it can b referring to dat. Follow Jesus.
Proverbs  31:4 It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink:  31:5 Lest they drink, and forget the law, and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted.  31:6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts. So if u want to perish…drink on.” ~ H

 

 
““Deacons likewise must be dignified, not two-faced, not given to excessive drinking, not greedy for gain -1 Tim 3:8”. Even deacons are permitted to drink….are they not priests and kings? “And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit -Eph 5:18”. Again, *wherein in excess* Should Christians even be drinking at all?” ~ E

 
“No d answer is no, avoid all appearance of evil.” ~H

 

““The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things -Titus 2:3.
“Stop drinking just water, but use a little wine for your digestion and your frequent illnesses -1 Tim 5:23. What if I agree that drinking is a sin @H…my doctor then says I should drink for medicinal purpose…am I permitted after reading 1Tim 5:23??” ~E

 
“I think he is saying alcohol should be taken in moderation. While I saying it shouldn’t b taken at all. He wont ask u to drink alcohol for medicinal purposes joor oga.” ~ H

 
“@H Paul is saying we can take alcohol, as long as it is moderate. U can’t go against him……He is Paul!” ~E

 
“Please quote dat “paul” verse wanna see it.” ~ H

 
Gladly😊. “Stop drinking just water, but use a little wine for your digestion and your frequent illnesses -1 Tim 5:23” For digestion purposes sef.” ~E

 
“I think the wine there is the product of pure fruit from winepressing not the brewed stuffs for the purpose of producing alcohol.” ~ F

 
“Thank u, @F…. Also wen G is saying spiritual level, it simply means that as you walk with God, he begins to purge you of unnecessary things that’s why he said dat “the branch dat is fruitful he will purge” shikena.” ~H

 

 

 

 

To be continued next week. Please visit any of the blogs mentioned above to read more comments on this issue. Thanks
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2 thoughts on “Answers To This week’s discussion.

  1. It all start with the driving force, what motivated you into thinking of smoking or drinking alcohol, is it the Spirit or your evil desire, then making you justify yourself by quoting the scripture for your good? Remember the scripture is for all, it is universal. The scripture does not teach us to condemn, Jesus never came to show us our evil desires because we all know them, but we are not reluctant to stop them since its enjoyed by our human nature. The Word of God, which is Jesus and also God Himself (John 1:1) is for every Priest, and each of us is a priest (1Petert 2:9, Rev. 1:6). Romans 8:1-2 ‘…no condemnation to them…in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus, has made us free from the law of sin and death’. We are all to help, pray and encourage ourselves in faith. The Devil is not wise, he is very subtle, he is a deceit. Ask a medical personnel the hazards alcohol and smoking does, then you will cherish the Word. Peace! ~W

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